City of North Vancouver council green-lights Green on Queensbury

Source: City of North Vancouver council green-lights Green on Queensbury

Comment by Voices:   Another lost opportunity to fulfill the earlier plans for Moodyville. Three four-storey buildings that mirror most of the buildings further  west along Marine Drive:

 Proposed Development looking southeast from East 3rd Street and Moody Ave

What happened to “With the community’s participation, these guidelines have been developed to advocate for a welcoming and attractive neighbourhood. They illustrate multifamily development that frames local, tree-lined streets. A range of building forms and housing types create a diverse streetscape, unified by the pedestrian-scale rhythm of front doors with paths to the sidewalk. Lanes and greenways further promote a living streets approach with fine-grained access through the neighbourhood. Buildings follow the natural slope, and considerations of view impacts and neighbourliness temper the apparent scale of development. Contemporary architectural forms support placemaking and comfort through well designed frontages and enhanced energy efficiency, noise reduction and adaptability. The Moodyville guidelines will support efforts to increase family-friendly housing in the community through designated densities that allow for a diversity of ground-oriented townhouse and low-rise apartment housing forms. Buildings are commonly arranged around a courtyard, and, in almost all forms, each dwelling benefits from a front door opening onto the street, lane or mews” (ref:

Affordability?  Suggested prices in excess of $700,000 for a two bedroom unit is not helpful to keep young families in the City, and is as ridiculous as Councillor Back’s comment speaking about the Grand Boulevard application that smaller lots in the Boulevard  area could be “great starter homes”.    Thanks (again) to Councillors Bell, Bookham and Clark for not supporting the project.

Disappointing (again).




One response to “City of North Vancouver council green-lights Green on Queensbury

  1. Jerome Irwin

    May 4th 2017
    TO: Mayor Walton & Council
    District of North Vancouver
    355 West Queens Road
    North Vancouver, B.C. V7N 4N5

    FROM: Jerome Irwin
    Founding President
    Lower Capilano Community Residents Association
    1398 Hope Road
    North Vancouver, B.C. V7P1W7


    Dear Mayor Walton & Council;

    The District’s issuance to its residents of new wheeled garbage and organic carts has raised a number of outstanding questions, issues and concerns among many of its residents, especially those who, over the years, have gone to great length and effort to beautify their property for their own benefit and that of all their neighbors and visitors who pass through their communities.

    These questions, issues, concerns include: the questionable practicality of the new curbside organics collection policy; the basic unfair nature of the District’s proposed new User Pay System, and whether or not the new assessment process of the organic/yard trimming disposal needs of the District’s residents/homeowners/rate payers already has been made and arrived at an average that falls well below the current six biodegradable bag limit; which would seem to further support the argument that those residents and homeowners who live on less green, more concretized properties are now to receive favor and preferential treatment over those who live in lush green surrounds. Which leads to the bigger question: What potentially dramatic impact will the District’s new organic collection and user pay system have on the long-standing iconic, bucolic look of the North Shore’s communities and denuding of the District & North Shore’s once lush, green landscaped, treed community gardens and neigbourhoods that will lead to a gradual less green, more concretized, East Vancouverization of its streets?

    When a representative of the DNV’s ‘Curbside Collection’ office was contacted (Megan Seeton, 604-990-2311) to obtain some clarity on the DNV’s new collection policy, the vagueness of range of possible answers or unanswered questions received created a certain amount of alarm that some homeowners/residents/tax payers will end up being unfairly penalized by this new system. To wit:


    To begin with, the new wheeled carts dropped off on every resident’s doorsteps came as a complete surprise to many residents because apparently little District-wide feedback was first elicited among their resident and community associations prior to the new policy going into effect. With the constant downgrading over the years of the importance of feedback from community associations and their residents has meant that too often residents and their associations are left completely out of the loop on critically-important new policies such as these (Note: Over a month ago this writer/homeowner made the effort to send an email to DNV Mayor & Council raising these issues and concerns, but never received so much as an acknowledgement or reply).

    Had more community feedback perhaps first been elicited or responded to, as in former years when community and resident associations played a more active integral part in the life of the North Shore’s future, many of the questions and issues raised here would have already been answered, and whatever unnecessary concerns allayed. For instance:

    To begin with, the District’s new Organic/Garbage Carts are labeled “Made in the USA”. Given that President Trump is so vigorously pushing his own AMERICA FIRST, MADE IN THE USA policy, if this resident and others had first been asked, the suggestion might have been made that this was a golden opportunity for Canada and the District of North Vancouver to push its own CANADA FIRST, MADE IN CANADA policy, and instead allocate similar homemade carts made for use on our side of the border; a small matter, perhaps, but one that has a nice symbolic patriotic touch and ring to it.

    Apparently a significant ‘Assessment Process’ already is underway in the District of North Vancouver, due to be completed by the end of May, regarding the collection of Organics & Garbage that at first glance, sounds as if it’s going to unfairly penalize some resident home owners, by charging them more monies for collecting the extra organics, equaling the original six allotted bags, that cannot now fit into the new organic carts. (Note: It is unknown at this point to what extent the Federation all the District’s resident/community associations and citizenry at FONVCA, ( are currently playing an active role in this ‘Assessment Process’ that has the power to adjust this discrepancy?)

    This poses a number of possible problems and concerns about a host of issues. For instance, DNV’s previous organic collection policy allowed each resident/home owner to put out six (6) biodegradable brown bags per week for collection. This no doubt is inadequate for many if not most homeowners, especially those who have large families with lots of organic waste or large, well-greened, landscaped, treed properties that require constant pruning and cleanup on a year round basis. This means that because each week some homeowners will fall hopelessly behind, perhaps as much as three (3) bags of yard waste/organics, and already faced with the problem of what to do with the uncollected amounts.

    This immediately raises questions from everything to: the homeowner being required to haul the excess waste material him or herself to the North Shore Transfer Station, incurring, at a personal cost to them self, or to be charged for yet a second larger organic cart. The end result is that some homeowners will no doubt be charged more than the homeowner who doesn’t need the full six (6) bag limit per week, not to mention the problem of building adequate storage of such a second massive ‘industrial’ cart. While to some residents this may seem like a reasonable “User Pay System”, to others it seems more like a potential ‘USURY PAY SYSTEM’

    The new organic cart provided by the District doesn’t accommodate the formerly-allotted amount, and apparently no additional organics are now to be allowed because, upon collection, the cart lid must be closed, with no extra debris showing. This raises the questions of the costs involved: for the purchase/rental of additional carts; the costs involved in the residents taking their own excess organics to the Transfer Station themselves on a weekly basis; especially if they don’t already have access to a P/U Truck or large SUV to accommodate the materials.

    This can also be especially problematic on a further number of levels. For starts, the storage of the organic materials is a problem. The North Shore has a lot of surrounding wild habitat areas that encourage rodents and other wildlife of all kinds which raises the specter of more pest control costs for homeowners. Also, given that the North Shore has such a rain-rich climate that quickly disintegrates anything like biodegradable brown bags left out in the elements for any length of time, quick disposal is a real issue. Also the question has arisen about the weight of the disposal organics? If the District has a long-range plan to establish a sliding scale of collection charges, depending upon the weight of the organics/yard trimmings, does the District intend to give an annual property tax break or other financial allowance for those who must do all these things this on their own dime?

    Another, completely different issue entirely pertains to the impracticality of senior citizens ability to dispose of these excess organics themselves, or their inability to even physically tamp down the organics in the cart to enable them to put more than the 2 or 3 maximum bags that the new cart will hold for District pickup. (Note: with some organics, like rosebush cuttings and thickets cannot be easily tamped down even if one is fit enough to climb into the cart and stomp up and down on the twigs and thickets).

    A yet perhaps even more dramatic issue posed by this new system pertains to the very future of the North Shore’s iconic look. District Council and its building department have more and more allowed the ‘knockdown’ of the North Shore’s former traditional homes, their architecture and mature natural landscapes that once existed on all of its community neighbourhoods and streets. Every subsequent tear-down of yet another traditional North Shore-style home and clear-cut of its every blade of grass, shrub, plant and tree on its grounds, has meant that the ‘monster’ dwelling put in its place, to the ultimate maximum edges of its property lines, leaves less and less, if any, room for future greenery save for massive more amounts of density and concrete. Hence, if one carries this process, and the District’s new collection/user pay system out to its logical conclusions, it can only but lead to the eventual East Vancouverization of the North Shore.

    Now that the DNV’s implementation of whatever its new Curbside Collection & User Pay System is yet to be, it calls into question how much the DNV is not only playing into, but contributing to, however unintentionally, this on-going erosion of the quality and look of its part of the North Shore that it has been charged by its electorate to care for and preserve for future generations.

    Jerome Irwin, 1398 Hope Road, North Vancouver, B.C. Canada V7P1W7
    (604) 984-7598

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