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Stupid/can’t believe it/weird/ruining/ eyesore/shameful/dumb-ferris wheel

The comments above are part of facebook comments posted to the North Shore News coverage of this news: http://www.nsnews.com/news/ferris-wheel-approved-for-waterfront-next-summer-1.20573170.  

The article was posted yesterday and so far more than 200 people have chimed in with their thoughts.  We do note that the report that “Council united in support” can be taken with a grain of salt.  Councillors Bell, Bookham and Clark have previously expressed concerns.  For those Council watchers lately concerned with the seeming lack of engagement by residents, these comments prove that people are indeed paying attention.  The comments are exactly in the order posted on facebook, nothing positive yet.

For the benefit of those not on facebook these are the comments (names removed) to date:

 -What a stupid idea!! First they get rid of all local parking for the restaurants, now this which will interfere with driving in the vicinity. If actions speak louder than words it seems the developer driven CNV council is determined to drive all the small businesses out of the area. Why? To free up the space for developers?

It really can’t believe this idea has gotten approval. Practically every city has a Ferris wheel these days; the novelty is no longer there. I can’t imagine tourists coming to the Shore just to ride an overpriced wheel in the sky. Why don’t we build something for residents, like an outdoor pool or have a beautiful park instead? And where is this money coming from when the City somehow couldn’t find the money to restore the Brazenhead or the other shipping cranes as originally planned and promised? I, for one, am not a fan of this Ferris wheel.

-That photoshop looks weird. How can a Ferris wheel fit between Anatolis, Tap and Barrel and the new Presentation House? I thought counsel had ditched the original concept. (Where the Ferris wheel would be run by private biz and would be situated dockside (way south of drawing )! Something fishy here.

-I don’t think the Lower Lonsdale Business Improvement Assoc……really has the money for covering the expense or part of the expense….there is no big business in Lower Lonsdale….

-City Council is ruining Lower Lonsdale, 1st that ugly silver cube building that blocks the view of Vanc. waterfront, now a huge ridiculous ferris wheel???? Hope everyone remembers this next election time but by then it will be too late.

-What an eyesore. Is NV not getting enough attention? Enough taxes from the addition of thousands of homes? Do people not love NV for its natural beauty and tranquility? Why turn it into a cheap circus for the few people who can’t occupy themselves with something more meaningful than a silly ride? I just don’t get it..

-North Vancouver isnt the nice beautiful community i grew up loving.its gone all city n now this!ppl cant even afford to live here anymore hth do you think we could afford a ride on ferris wheel n wth would we want to???This is ALL FOR TOURISM isn’t there enough attractions?? THIS IS AN EYESORE!!!

-If people wanted a ferris wheel they could head over the bridge to the PNE. Except maybe the traffic situation is so bad they can’t get there anymore. Shameful and tacky.

-We need someone to run in the next election that will win the votes!!! Mussatto has been in office since 1995 and look at what he has created. This is ridiculous.
Local decisions brought us here not provincial, like people complained in the recent election. Who will run against Mussatto?

-Is this a joke? I live in that area and there is no room in that spot. Tap and barrel deck nearly done and the new arts building??!!

-dumb, dumb, dumb. I want to see mountains and trees, not skyscrapers and ferris wheels.

-no…no …please no…we don’t need this in our local community!! We have enough for attractions for tourists!!!! Please no!!!!

and more: Why not? They’ve already ruined the waterfront with all the condos and their atrocious “art gallery”.;We already have too much congestion on the North Shore we don’t need anymore.;Stupid idea…. ruins the view and not even original….; they are trying to turn lonsdale into a California feel fo sho;nother program that should assist with solving the transportation and housing affordability issues on the North Shore.;Y’all need to write letters rather than rant on fb posts. It’ll be heard a lot louder.;Seven seas should still be docked there; Ridiculous waste of money;Oh noooooo….I hadn’t heard about this in a long time. Thought it was history; 

and more.

 

Ferris Wheel back again?

Coming up at CNV Council on Monday is a motion from Councillor Buchanan:

Ferris Wheel in Lower Lonsdale – File: 13-6740-20-0014/1

Submitted by: Councillor Buchanan

RECOMMENDATION: WHEREAS the development of the Shipyards is moving forward; WHEREAS the programming of the Shipyards has proven to be highly successful; AND WHEREAS the original plans for the Shipyards included a Ferris Wheel; THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT staff investigate the feasibility of the City hosting a Ferris Wheel attraction in Lower Lonsdale during the summer of 2017 on a cost recovery basis.

This was previously considered and discounted in April 2015: https://nvcityvoices.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/shipyards-plan-moving-ahead/

Quoting from the North Shore News: ‘Gone from the plan, however, is the ferris wheel at the end of the pier, which had been a lightning rod for criticism by opponents of the plan’.

There seems to be no mention of the ferris wheel in the City’s December 2016 update: http://www.cnv.org/parks-recreation-and-culture/city-waterfront/the-shipyards-lot-5.

Does this mean that the Casino could surface soon?  Many mentions in various media back to 2013 along with the ferris wheel.

 

New water feature coming to North Vancouver waterfront at Lonsdale

from The Vancouver Sun today:

The foot of Lonsdale in North Vancouver will be the site of a new water feature after $400,000 was donated to the city’s waterfront revitalization project.

The city said Tuesday that the donation by Richardson International through the Richardson Foundation will be used for a “one-of-a-kind playful and vibrant gathering place for people of all ages and abilities to enjoy one of the most spectacular locations on the waterfront.”

Richardson moves Canadian grains through its western Canadian facilities, including its North Vancouver terminal.

The new water area will include rippling water, large natural boulders for seating and areas for playing inside the water area.

The 344-square-metre (3,700 square feet) water feature will be located between the new Polygon Gallery and the Tap and Barrel restaurant and can be turned off to allow for other uses of the space. 

“Richardson is a great community partner and we are very appreciative of this important contribution to the revitalization of our waterfront,” said Mayor Darrell Mussatto in a statement.

Phil Hulina, Richardson’s senior director, Vancouver Terminal Operations, said investing in communities is important to the company. “We are pleased to support this exciting project and the community of North Vancouver by leaving a lasting legacy that people of all ages can enjoy.”

Richardson, a part of the North Vancouver waterfront since the 1950s, recently completed a major terminal expansion.

The city recently finished its 48-metre-long Megabench, the first of many public spaces coming to the foot of Lonsdale.

Revitalization of the waterfront area also includes an outdoor public skating rink, heritage elements, an enhanced public stage, and commercial elements including a restaurant, retail and a hotel.

The overall plan is expected to be finished by the fall of 2017.

bmorton@postmedia.com

 

Source: New water feature coming to North Vancouver waterfront at Lonsdale

City of North Vancouver cautiously approves museum in Lower Lonsale

Comment by Voices:  This is coverage of last night’s public hearing in the North Shore News.  There is so much more to be said about this project, unfortunately we can’t check the Council meeting video as of 4.00pm today Jun 28 ‘because of problems with the web-streaming’ of which we were aware last night.  So our comments will be coming when the link is fixed.

Link to article:

The North Vancouver Museum and Archives has found a new home in Lower Lonsdale – with about 12 storeys of condos on top. City of North Vancouver council voted unanimously Monday night to approve . . .

Source: City of North Vancouver cautiously approves museum in Lower Lonsale

Waterfront Shipyards Lot 5 Announcement

The Shipyards – Lot 5 Development

 NEW: The City has chosen Quay Property Management Corp. (QPM) as its partner to develop The Shipyards – Lot 5, bringing the City a significant step closer to delivering a unique, interactive, year-round, activity driven people place that will include an outdoor public skating rink and a water play area. The outdoor public skating rink will be the largest in the Lower Mainland.

See Development Highlights

Features include:  an outdoor public skating rink for use during the winter months, including a looped skating trail to complement the open rink area.  a water play zone for use during the summer months, with a combination of pools and sprayers  a covering for weather protection over the entire open space, complete with a retractable portion to allow for an open water play area in the summer  significant heritage elements incorporated into the site development such as the use of the ‘Machine Shop’ building as the covering structure over the open space  enhanced public stage  underground parking  a commercial component, which will include restaurant, retail and proposed hotel use (hotel use will require rezoning)  public support spaces, including public washrooms and unique community programming opportunities for both small and large events  rubberized and non-skid surfaces, ample seating and viewing areas  connection with the Spirit Trail and multiple access points for multi-modal transportation

The Shipyards first opened as Wallace Shipyards in 1906 and grew into one of the most impressive industrial operations in western Canada before closing its doors in 1992. Over its many years of operation, the Shipyards have become a defining aspect of the City’s identity. Today, the Shipyards are recognized as a Primary Heritage Site in the City of North Vancouver Heritage Inventory. Learn more about the City’s shipbuilding history.

The Shipyards have been restored through the Pier Development to accommodate retail and commercial space, public plazas, interpretive signage, waterfront walkways and restored piers. Phase lll, the last component, is currently underway. Continued detailed planning for this waterfront destination is ongoing as part of the Central Waterfront Planning process and Lot 5 redevelopment.

The last remaining parcel to be developed is Lot 5, a City-owned parcel of land located in the center of The Shipyards site. As part of the Central Waterfront Development Plan, a vision for Lot 5 was established to create a significant people place with active and interrelated public spaces offering year-round activities all of which are supported by a surrounding commercial development. To further clarify the vision, in April 2015, Council endorsed the Site Planning Principles to guide future development of Lot 5. In June of 2015, a Request for Expression of interest was undertaken and then a more detailed Request for Proposal process.

Further Information

Museum and Hidden Agenda for the Shipyards

WOULD THE PIPE SHOP MUSEUM REALLY LOSE $172K ANNUALLY ? DOES THE SLATE HAVE A HIDDEN AGENDA FOR THE SHIPYARDS ?

Complete document: Blank 262

By: Kerry Morris – March 6, 2016

Were Keating and Mussatto being truthful when they publicly positioned the Museum as a perpetual money losing burden to City taxpayers, or were they and BDO telling a pre-determined version of the truth?

The Museum and Archives committee were asked to hire consultants to examine the true operating costs and income potential of a Museum located at the City’s Pipe Shop. So they did as they were instructed to do. First they hired Lord Cultural Resources. Lord’s job was to bench mark the Museum’s marketplace potential in the setting of the Pipe Shop, in terms of income, expense and attendance, and then determine what its profit and loss potential would be in that setting. Here is the link to that report (http://nvma.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ BusinessCaseSummary.pdf). Lord is a highly respected global consulting firm with many successful projects to its credit. (http://www.lord.ca/).

The City asked for a second review, this time by a proven accounting firm. So the Museum and Archives committee hired Grant Thornton LLP, a highly respected International accounting firm with a global reputation. Grant Thornton built on The Lord analysis and did not disclose any findings that Lord’s analysis was in anyway flawed, which would indeed have been very hard to do. Lord was quite clear the financial performance of the Museum would compel quality skilled managers to keep a good eye on the bottom line and a strong hand on the financial tiller of the operation. Grant Thornton’s report showed the Museum in the Pipe Shop wouldn’t lose the $172,000 Keating, Mussato and the rest of the ‘Slate’ now claim, but that it would in fact break even. That is not to say that either Lord or Grant Thornton sugar coated the truth. They made clear that in order to break even, after existing funding commitments, the Museum would be compelled to adjust its programming and pricing to reflect market realities in a dynamic business environment, competing for each disposable buck. And that was only one of several principal reasons for the Museum to be located in the Shipyards Pipe Shop, in close proximity to the high traffic at the Friday Night market, just a short walking distance from the Sea-Bus and a large downtown populous. It also happens to be the physical location from which the City of North Vancouver made its mark on the world by building and refitting hundreds of ships which helped Allied Forces succeed in both European and Pacific theatres during WW-II. We have a storied past and there is truthfully no better place to tell that story than from the Pipe Shop setting (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DdTwuPcie1s).

But The Lord report underpinned a political issue that the Mayor and his ‘Slate’ have railed against throughout their entire mandate. The Lord study highlighted that as a community of little more than 52,000, the Museum would have to draw from a larger audience to be successful. In order to do so, Museum planners intended to tell what they saw as a regional story, which included both North Shore Districts as well as the City’s neighbouring First Nations peoples, whose ancestors have lived here since long before the North Shore was settled by European and Asian immigrants.

The Mayor and his ‘Slate’ have long opposed any mechanism that might work as a vehicle that may cause residents to think in terms of a single municipal entity for the North Shore, and I believe they saw a regional museum at the Pipe Shop as a potential problem that might cause residents to think about forming a more regional local government structure. Not to mention the fact that the Museum at the Pipe Shop may also work against the dreams and aspirations of at least one local developer and Mussatto supporter.

 The Mayor’s ‘Slate’, unhappy with the location of the Museum at the Shipyards, a developing story which Mussatto has begun to describe as his ‘Mayoral Legacy’, took the unprecedented action of compelling a second accounting report undertaken to further test both Lord and Grant Thornton’s findings. This brings the total consulting expenditures on Museum studies thus far to an amount in excess of $250,000, and yet we still don’t have a Museum, or a clue where it will finally be located. More importantly, it raises the profile of a new political strategy and reality. If a study portrays an adverse outcome versus the political winds of the day, the City will now spend more and more taxpayer monies on more and more analysis until it can eventually secure the outcome local politicians like. And what kind of integrity does that disclose of our public officials? Not a good one! It paints a picture of a rather dishonest crowd.

The whole process discloses an uncomfortable truth which is that the Museum did not do all its homework in preparing to wage war with the City’s shifting political landscape, and the City for its part was less than forthright, if not downright dishonest in its public disclosure, positioning of the facts, and back room dealings regarding this most important cultural imperative. Both groups owed it to taxpayers to do a better job.

First, the City failed to disclose that it was already receiving a huge financial contribution specifically earmarked for a Museum purpose. It seems that when Pinnacle came to the City in 2006 seeking more density for all of the one dozen high rises it sought to develop on the Shipyard lands, a little horse-trading was undertaken. That horse-trading eventually resulted in the City receiving long-term control of three separate land parcels, each numerically identified.

The income being derived from the Tap and Barrel pub lands (parcel 7) were specifically ear-marked to go to a museum located at the Shipyards and the failure of the City to use these monies for the intended purpose is not just immoral, it is reprehensible.

The Pipe Shop lease has been reported as being as little as $30,000 per month ($360,000) per year, to as much as $80,000 per month ($960,000) per year. Both amounts explain the incredible price of a Beer, glass of wine or meal, but in any event would make quick work of any $172K annual loss complained about by Keating, Mussatto and the ‘Slate’. In reality, even if the BDO report compelled and commissioned at the City’s directive to kill the museum was correct, there would still be in excess of $180,000 of income left over from the Tap and Barrel after any loss. So Keating’s claim the museum represented an unreasonable taxpayer burden was untruthful!

Secondly, although the Museum could have done a better job with fund raising the City could also have allowed a longer period to secure funding. It was Keating and Mussatto who sought the tighter time limits, unlike the latitude granted to the photo Gallery which has already broken ground yet still hasn’t secured 100% of its project funding needs, and may actually generate an annual loss which will potentially become a burden on the City if that does happen.

However, what’s only been discussed behind closed doors thus far is the City and the Mayor’s program to scuttle the museum’s fund-raising efforts. Example: Did you know that Richardson’s has committed some $400,000 to the City for use at the Shipyard lands to be used as the City sees fit. This donation was in essence compensation for the impact of the grain silos and the political capital used-up by Mussatto and the ‘Slate’ in supporting the Moodyville densification. The Richardson’s commitment allows the money to go wherever the City decides, but Darrell and the ‘Slate’ have decided on a water park which will be the summertime use for the outdoor ice rink. This announcement will follow soon as the City is also about to announce the new Pinnacle proposal for development of Site 5, which will give Pinnacle more hotel rooms and convention space on that site.

That’s right, we’re going to give Pinnacle back the very land we took in trade for increased density to fund the museum at the Shipyards that we’re now not getting, and they get the density to-boot. If the words immoral crooks come to mind, then we’re on the same page. I’m thinking the same thing. But the fact is that the Richardson commitment could just as easily have been dedicated to the Museum, but for the fact that the Museum is not a part of the Mayor’s vision for his Legacy. Special note should also be made of the fact that Mussatto telling public gatherings the Museum in the Pipe-Shop “…wasn’t gonna happen…”, which words were also echoed by Keating in at least one Chamber of Commerce Board meeting over a year ago, didn’t help the business community with its interest in supporting the Museum. So imagine how the Port businesses felt about rubbing our little dictator the wrong way, and so they did not! They played ball and did not support the Museum. This was a problem for the committee who had counted on support from the likes of Washington Group and others for a museum that would showcase the North Shore’s shipbuilding history, especially in light of the $8 Billion shipbuilding contract currently underway at Washington Marine (Seaspan) Vancouver Shipyard, with noise PM Trudeau may further expand this contract.

What was equally interesting was that despite a huge fundraising initiative, nowhere on the City’s website, a PR mechanism for the Slate’s plans for our community, could you find one word about the Museum’s donation drive. The Photo Gallery initiative gets high profile support, but the Museum not so much. And when it came time for the Harper Government to once again seek re-election, Saxton came out 1 day before the writ was dropped pledging $2.2M for the Museum. In that Press Release, wherein you will typically find at minimum a perfunctory thank you from the local Mayor, the Mayor’s failure to provide even a thank you spoke loudest of all. Mussatto would not have voted for the museum project at the Pipe Shop under any circumstances as he had already written it out of the location in the deal he has negotiated behind the scenes with Pinnacle for his ‘Legacy’ initiative.

Lastly, when the City threw away the Flamborough Head and kept the $850,000 in donations it set a precedent. That being, if you don’t have the support of the Mayor and his ‘Slate’, your donation is but a tax grab. Donors were listening!

 

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Museum response to BDO report

The link below is a 5 page  report:

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Summary of BDO Report (“Feasibility Review of New Museum Business Plans, December 7, 2015) and the NVMA Commission’s Response (“Response to Feasibility Review of New Museum business Plans, January 6, 2016)

Prepared by Nancy Kirkpatrick, Director, North Vancouver Museum & Archives (NVMA) January 29, 2016

with background information and side-by-side summary of reports

link: CDNV_DISTRICT_HALL-2804610-v1-BDO_Report_reponse_summary